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Xx Monk Hunter Xx · Jul 27, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19

i was wondering how fast the 2 new class attack speeds will prolly be...Anet made it sound like sythe was gonna be fast to me, cause like they said somthin about whirling around in the middle of battle and hittin mupltiple foes, but i dunno about paragon spears.....thoughts?

Vahn Roi · Jul 27, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

What makes you think a scythe would be fast? It's a long, heavy, two-handed poll arm. I picture it striking closer to the speed of a hammer.

At this point I would imagine they attack at the same speed as any other class.

We'll see this weekend I guess.

Solar_Takfar · Jul 27, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29

the scythe attack itself is likely slow, maybe similar to a hammer. the whirling around will probably come from skills, akin to cyclone axe

Paragon spears... probably slowish, like bows, being ranged weapons, and all. If they can be used in melee, I imagine they'd be a bit slower than an axe, but faster than a hammer.

Vahn Roi · Jul 27, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31

How the spears of the Paragon will work is very interesting to me. Especially due to the fact that we don't know at this time if the spears are in fact one-handed or two.

twicky_kid · Jul 27, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

How the spears of the Paragon will work is very interesting to me. Especially due to the fact that we don't know at this time if the spears are in fact one-handed or two.

Would you throw a spear in 1 hand or 2?

They will be one handed. Wouldn't make any sense to try to throw a spear with two hands.

db0y · Jul 27, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

How the spears of the Paragon will work is very interesting to me. Especially due to the fact that we don't know at this time if the spears are in fact one-handed or two.

nugzta · Jul 27, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Is that pic taken from guildwars website? Wow the shield is awesome

Urban_Nomad · Jul 27, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

The pic was posted on the Japanese official site for awhile, but soon replaced with the pictures that we have known about since Nightfall was announced. It was also posted with a picture of a female Dervish wielding a Scythe in 2 hands.

Anyway, the question I'm asking is this: Will Paragons be like Rangers are with arrows? Pulling random spears out of the air behind their backs and throwing them?

shru · Jul 27, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I'm guessing spears will have the same range as all the spear spells. (half the distance of spell range, or roughly half the aggro bubble)
For example:Ice_Spear

And given that distance i'd put it on par with the short bow or faster.

linh · Jul 27, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

I'm wondering what is require to wear Paragon's shield ? Leadership, Command, Spear Mastery or Motivation. Looks awesome

Takonic · Jul 27, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

naturally...i think scythe is average...most scythe toting people from games seem to be average-fast, mainly because it is a scythe should not be heavy, as you can see...scythes arent meant for big musclar people to weild..it'd have to be quick and nimble....i have a feeling spear...have a slow refire rate, but fast airborne speed...think of a real spear...take quite so strength to chuck it...but since it straight on..it'd be quite fast

lightblade · Jul 27, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

I think it's going to be slower than Hammer, 2.7 like hornbow

TRicciardi · Jul 27, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takonic

naturally...i think scythe is average...most scythe toting people from games seem to be average-fast, mainly because it is a scythe should not be heavy, as you can see...scythes arent meant for big musclar people to weild..it'd have to be quick and nimble....i have a feeling spear...have a slow refire rate, but fast airborne speed...think of a real spear...take quite so strength to chuck it...but since it straight on..it'd be quite fast

yeh i agree.. they have to be light weight.. how else could this guy use one?

twicky_kid · Jul 27, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Sythes are heavy. I've used a real one before. They are balanced on both sides to reduce the "feel" of the weight. Once you swing the balance of weight makes the sythe swing itself.

Moa Bird Cultist · Jul 27, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Twicky... is there something you're not telling us?

Scythes I can see having a fair attack speed - 1.5 seconds perhaps, putting it right between the warrior einhanders and hammers. This would probably be supplemented by fairly heavy damage, but I expect a wide strike range, given that it takes a fair amount of skill to keep a scythe pointing the right way - perhaps (6~12) to (26~32)

As for the spears, we do not know their attack mechanic yet, so we can only speculate for now. Realisticly, they cannot be made more powerful than bows, for the sake of balance, but the point is still valid that a single spear would outdamage an arrow if thrown well. Attack speed is another question that remains unanswered, although if spears are melee, I think, again, 1.5 to 1.75 is reasonable - they will likely be heavy hitting einhanders with a middle attack rate, (at least, thats what I'd like

) Although having said that, from what is already known of the two classes, the paragon is not primarily a damaging class, so perhaps the damage of the spears will be lower than expected - after all, nobody expected 7-17 for daggers and yet, it made a surprising amount of sense.

And that means there is something else we have to bear in mind - we can speculate damage and speed all we like, but both are dependant mainly on the profession's skills.

Nevin · Jul 27, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Javelin - 2.5 seconds as base speed. (Maybe it'll work like bows, with different types of spears)

Scythe - 1.7 (Hammer)

Vahn Roi · Jul 27, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Anyone remember the pictures of Devona Dual-weilding swords? How about the video that showed her doing the same. My point exactly when it comes to how Paragons will use their spears. It's too early to assume anything.